Rocking the Legacy: A Conversation with Jefferson Starship's Icons

Arnold00:00:00

Our guests today are from one of America's most iconic arena rock bands.Formed In San Francisco, California in 1974, they have eight gold, three platinum selling albums, one double platinum album, 20 hit singles, over a billion combined streams.They are Rock and Roll hall of Fame inductees, Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award recipients and multiple Grammy nominations.We're going to be talking today to original band member of Jefferson Starship David Freiberg and vocalist Kathy Richardson on St. Louis in Tune.Welcome to St. Louis in tune and thank you for joining us for fresh perspectives on issues and events with experts, community leaders and everyday people who make a difference in shaping our society and world.I'm Arnold Stricker along with co host Mark Langston.We are glad that you're here and that you've joined us today folks.What a great show.We have unbelievable guests today.We want to thank our sponsor Better Rate Mortgage for their support of the show.You can listen to previous shows@stlintune.com where you can follow us and leave a review.Our thought for the day goes right into who we're going to have as our guest Musicians don't retire.They stop when there's no more music in them.And that's a quote from none other than Louis Armstrong himself.Musicians don't retire, they stop when there's no more music in them.David Freiberg is an American rock musician, vocalist and multi instrumentalist and he holds the distinction of being one of the oldest active rock stars still touring his foundation work in the 1960s and 70s San Francisco psychedelic and arena rock scenes.He lent his talents to three legendary bands, Quicksilver, Messenger Service, Jefferson Airplane and Jefferson Starship.He sings, he plays keyboard, synthesizers, bass guitar, acoustic and rhythm guitar and he is classically trained in violin and viola.Our second guest is Cathy

Arnold00:02:06

Richardson, an American Grammy nominated singer, songwriter, musician and actress.She's best known as the lead vocalist now for the legendary rock band Jefferson Starship.She joined them in 2008 and stepped into a historic role famously anchored by Grace Slick and continues to tour with the band and record with them.She also portrayed Janis Joplin on Broadway and then was the lead vocal performer for Big Brother and the Holding Company.She has her own band, Kathy Richardson Band and does solo work and other projects.I am really thrilled to have both of you on the line because you are both in your unique ways, historical figures in the music industry and to be able to talk to somebody who you listen to on vinyl or on the radio or on CD or on whatever it's MP3 or MP4 or whatever it is.See you on video.To have individuals like your caliber of musical talent is just an honor for me.So welcome to St. Luis and Tune, both of you.David and Kathy.

Cathy00:03:11

Thank you, Arnold.

David00:03:13

Good to be there.

Arnold00:03:14

I don't want to give any one of you a little bit more time than the other because you're both so very deserving.But, David, how do you continue to do it?Dude, you are.You're rocking it, man.You're rocking it.

David00:03:26

I don't know.I can't do anything else.Won't exist.

Arnold00:03:30

I think that's interesting because I did a quote at the front end of the introduction that says, this is from Louis Armstrong.Musicians don't retire.They stop when there's no more music in them.And you've got a lot more music in you, I can tell.

David00:03:43

I sure hope so.

Arnold00:03:44

How did you do the transition from folk music back in the 60s to what everybody's calling psychedelic rock?Which, as you look retrospectively back, is it still psychedelic rock?

David00:03:56

I haven't taken a real psychedelic for a few years.

Arnold00:04:02

But you're still rock.

David00:04:05

To tell you, once I got back in the band with Paul and we got around to keeping the band, it just evolved into this wonderful band that we have now.

Arnold00:04:17

You guys all complement one another.

David00:04:19

That's exactly it.I don't know.It feels better than any band I've ever been in.Just the relationship between everybody in it.

Cathy00:04:29

I would say that, too.Just to chime in.When I was growing up as a kid, fantasizing about what it was like to be in a band with everybody on the same mission.We're all working towards one common goal.And I had my own band for years, and sometimes you get that.But people burn out, they move on, they get a better gig and they quit.And like, this band really is the manifestation of that for me.Everybody really is friends.We really are a family.We really get along.We have little things here and there, like anybody does.We are all on the same mission with the same purpose.And it.Every time we go out on stage together, it's like we just want to rock the audience as hard as we can.

David00:05:16

I'm in it till I drop.I hope it never happens.

Cathy00:05:19

I do, too.Geez, don't drop, David.

David00:05:23

I promise.I'm trying not to fall anymore.

Arnold00:05:26

Do you think the reason that is now, Kathy, that you mentioned that?And David, chime in on this, too, because.Is it because you both are older, you're more mature in life and it's not.Gee, we're in our late teens, twenties, pushing early thirties, and executive function hadn't kicked in.And there's so many other distractions.I'm trying to prove myself that.You don't have to prove yourself to anybody.You guys are there.

David00:05:51

What.

Arnold00:05:51

What is the reason, do you think, that you all get along really well?

Cathy00:05:55

I think we do have to prove ourselves to people or constantly.People are always saying, oh, no.Original members and cover ban and all this stuff.And where it's frustrating.But I think in the case of this band, it's this group of five people.Because the band wasn't always this unified.When I joined the band 18 years ago and the personnel changed a little bit.I think it's this combination of five people we call ourselves backstage and that we're all, like, not going through the motions.We're really in it to win it and to prove.We are Jefferson Starship.We're the band now.We've got.We're connected to the history.And everybody that's been brought in was brought in by Paul Kantner and kept in place here by Grace Blick herself, who still.She doesn't perform anymore, but she still has an interest in the band.That's our mission, and it's to keep this music alive and to just give people a great show.

Arnold00:06:51

And people obviously haven't heard you sing.If they make that comment or they haven't heard David sing at 88.David, gosh, I hope I said I can't even sing like that at my age.You are.You're unbelievable.

Cathy00:07:04

He is unbelievable.Yeah.People on the Internet, the comments.I like to say that.Don't read the comments.It's like looking in the mirror when you're tripping.You just shouldn't do it.

Arnold00:07:15

So, David, I have to ask you this about.You were in and out of the band and you've come back and this relates to what we've been talking about.You've been characterized as someone who has been like the glue that has held things together throughout the years.What do you think that's been?What has been that about your personality?To do that.

David00:07:33

I'm in it to do whatever makes.I'm always just trying to do what will make the song.Whether that you're my little piece.Something that fit.And it doesn't have to be the lead part or anything.Make it work.And that's all I'm trying to do.I'm like.And I meant it to be part of it, not to be the star.That means nothing to me.

Cathy00:08:01

But I think everything, to me,.

David00:08:04

I.

Arnold00:08:04

Think if the ego is out of it, it helps quite a bit because a lot of bands, just.The egos clash and they collide and they crash and burn and even they might be great artists on their own individually, but if they can't get along with the other band members, that serv.No purpose for the band.And it sounds like you guys have been able to overcome that.

David00:08:23

Yeah, you gotta watch your ego because it can work on you.So it makes you think that you're responsible for everything.And I'm responsible for, I don't know, being a glue or whatever.Just be sticky.

Arnold00:08:38

I think you're.I think you're humble in the fact that a lot of people, they give you credit for writing Jane, but you turn right around and you give also credit to another member who wrote.

David00:08:49

Yeah, really, the whole band.That's what you're in a band for.And obviously I, you know, I mean, I wrote the song with my buddy Jim McPherson and we had it all done.But then Craig came in and wrote tremendous arrangement and I gave it to.And gave him credit for that and a piece of it.And it turned out great when everybody in it.Paul came in with a little bit in the beginning.The intro.

Cathy00:09:16

Yeah, Paul.Did Paul write that piano intro?I've been meaning to ask you that.

David00:09:23

Yeah.And that was his.So I gave him a piece.I gave him credit for that too.

Arnold00:09:28

And that's important.

David00:09:29

My girlfriend.

Arnold00:09:31

It was your girlfriend originally?

David00:09:33

Well, it was originally, but we made.I think we made her look worse than she really was.The person that targeted actually is one of the.One of the best people I've ever known.Really.

Arnold00:09:47

You're very humble with that.

David00:09:49

It's true.It's true.We were just kids and weren't settled down.

Arnold00:09:53

That's all so memorable.Times of.When you think back on all the things that you guys have done.And I'm going to go back to.I'm going to start with David first and then Kathy.Of all the tours, of all the songs, of all the gold records.Platinum, double platinum.I'm not going to ask you what your favorite song is, because I'm sure they all are.There might be some more that you have an inclination to.But what stands out over the years, just being in the group.

David00:10:21

Times when everybody all together, when it really worked.And there were times when everybody was on the same page.For example, like when we were doing the.The basic track for Miracles in the studio.That was one of the most magic nights I've Ever experienced.Everybody was playing their part at the beginning together, and it just seemed like magic that worked.

Arnold00:10:48

Kathy, what about you?

David00:10:49

It was very, very easy for everybody to add pieces to it.That was probably the first time that we actually used strings, I believe.

Arnold00:10:57

Interesting.

David00:10:58

Thanks.

Cathy00:11:00

As a fan growing up, I remember I had that Wind, Winds of Change on cassette in my Walkman, and I would fall asleep to that album every single night.And because I didn't discover the band until the early 80s and.And then I went back and gobbled everything up, all the way back.But, yeah, I love that Winds of Change album.I love.I still love that song.And then I love.I guess Modern Times is one.And Nuclear Furniture, I love that too.I was able to see that in concert when I was 14 at the holiday Star Theater in Merrillville, Indiana.And I saw David Paul Grace, Donnie Baldwin, Craig Chiquiso, and Pete Sears.I think I was in the last row of this balcony or something, but it was awesome.

Arnold00:11:43

In your wildest dreams, did you ever think you would be asked to be the front singer?

David00:11:49

No.No.

Cathy00:11:51

That wasn't even something that you conceived of When I was coming up, and then as I formed my own band, I was always gonna be my own artist.I had Cathy Richardson band playing all over Chicago in the Midwest, and I was always just going to be my own artist and then some.My first thing that happened was my bass player was snatched up by a guy who had a major label deal and was going off in a tour bus.And then my.My next player got recruited into Survivor, and then it was just my guitar player got recruited into Night Ranger and all this.Then it was like, oh, this is a thing where you get recruited to go play in an established band.And.But it was like, I still was never thinking I was going to do that, but strangely, I had gotten sucked into this play called Love Janice, where I portrayed Janis Joplin.Another thing I never thought I would do.

Arnold00:12:41

How did that happen, by the way?

Cathy00:12:43

The show was coming to Chicago.I actually had planned to go see it because I had the book Love Janice.And I was.I'm very interested in Janice.Not an overly expert or anything, but the theater called me and said, we can't find a singing Janice.And everyone in town says, you're the one to do it.And I was like, no, not me.I was like, I'm very honored, but I'm not the right person.I don't sound like Janice.I don't do theater.And they said, please just come down.And so I went down There thinking, I'm going to meet Sam Andrew, who is Janice's guitar player, and.Cause he was the music director.And.And then they're gonna see that I'm not right for this, and they're gonna say, thank you for coming or whatever.And to my shock and surprise, they offered it to me on the spot.And anyway, that's how I initially got into.Took me to different parts of the country.I did it in New York City and eventually ended up in San Francisco and moved there thinking.They told me this plan is to have the show run forever.Like Beef Blanket Bingo, which ran for 10 or 20 years or something.

David00:13:51

I don't know.

Cathy00:13:52

And I thought, I'm just gonna do this for a while.And five days after I signed my lease, the show closed unexpectedly.

David00:14:00

Oh.

Cathy00:14:01

And so we weren't gonna run forever.And it was over.And next thing, Big Brother in the holding company was going on tour.It was the 40th anniversary of the Summer of Love.This was 2007.Would you like to come do this tour with us where we're playing with Jefferson Starship and Quicksilver Messenger Service?And I said, sure.I got nothing else to do and I got rent to pay here.I went on that tour with Big Brother and I played with them a little bit locally around San Francisco for the next year or so.But then I got recruited into Jefferson Starship and that was 2008.I've been here ever since.

Arnold00:14:41

And you correct me if I'm wrong, when the induction came into the Rock and Roll hall of Fame, Grace Slick asked you to sing in place of who she was.

Cathy00:14:50

Yeah.

Arnold00:14:52

You talk about an ego.Putting an ego aside, that's crazy.

Cathy00:14:56

She doesn't perform anymore and hasn't for many years, so she doesn't really even like to be in the public eye very much.It was a big deal that she even came out for it because she didn't go to the Grammy ceremony, but she came to the PBS Lifetime Achievement Achievement Award ceremony where they awarded them.And the bands came out and I performed with Zach and Yorma from Jefferson Airplane.And we did Somebody to Love.And it was.

Arnold00:15:26

It was crazy.It was crazy.

David00:15:29

Yes, it was.And she did.

Arnold00:15:32

That was like, girl, you got some chops.

Cathy00:15:34

Thank you.Yeah, it was incredible having Gray there.And she was in the wing waiting because they were going to do their.They had just done their speech, and she was not going to go back out to the seat she wanted to watch in the wing.And she pulled me down and said, do you know this song?I said, yeah, and I'm going to sing the out of it for you.It's great.It was quite a moment.

Arnold00:15:57

David, when you do tours like this, and your tour schedule is unbelievable, your guys are all over the place, how much energy are you drawing from the audience?I know everybody's probably singing the songs, but not every city's gonna be the same.Not every venue's the same.And to pump yourselves up for each concert, that takes quite a bit of energy.And I know you like to perform for the public, but how do you do that?And what's the interaction like with the audience during a performance?

David00:16:27

It can vary.Usually, almost always, somebody in the front row knows everything else, moving along with everything we think.And I. I.More.I honestly think it's more.I don't have to get up for it because I get to play with these guys.How I feel.

Cathy00:16:49

I feel like we have to do a certain amount of psyching up before we go out there, because on the road, especially at what we've been doing on the bus lately, it's just excruciatingly long days at the venue where you're just so bored.That's what zaps my energy, just having nothing to do all day.And so we.We have our little ritual where we get together before the show and we do our clump.We call it the clump.And we get super psychedelic stage.We psych each other up.And then you get the adrenaline going and you walk out and you're in a stadium with 10,000 people and lights go out and the audience goes.And it does get your heart rate going.Sure.

Arnold00:17:29

So what's the clump?Explain the clump.

Cathy00:17:31

We all put our hands in the center and we say.Either Donnie or I say some encouraging words about the show, and then we say JS5 on three, count to three, and we scream JS5.And David and I hold it out as long as we possibly can and hold the longest note and have a contest where we try to blow each other's head up.And that fills the lungs and gets.Gets your lungs just really ready to go out there and belch it out.

Arnold00:18:00

Does she outlast you, David?

Cathy00:18:02

Where?When I see his face turning bright red, though sometimes I stop it because I really don't want him to kill him.

David00:18:07

You don't want me to fall over, okay?

Cathy00:18:09

No, I do not.Because he's so stubborn.He'll just.He'll just keep going.

Arnold00:18:14

Oh, my gosh.

Cathy00:18:15

When a kid holds their breath till.

Arnold00:18:16

They pass out, you guys Talking about this, it's so refreshing because you.You see what happens to bands along the way.You read about things and you never know what to believe.You never know the real stories because or then somebody's going to do a kiss and tell book or some kiss and tell interview and.Or way after the fact.And to hear what you guys are talking about to keep the group moving forward and to keep it vibrant is really pleasant to hear.It's really refreshing to hear.Which I think says why you've been going 50 plus years, frankly.

Cathy00:18:50

Yeah, for sure.

Arnold00:18:51

So, David, go ahead.

David00:18:53

Now, the person that's been in Jefferson starts the long.Is Chris Smith actually into Single street.

Cathy00:19:02

Even during like in more than half of the last 50 years.Right.I mean, yeah, if he going on 30 years now, 90.I'm still in the 20s.It'll be in.In 28, it will be 30 years.That's crazy.

David00:19:17

Two years.It'll be 30 years he's been doing it.

Arnold00:19:19

And he's playing keyboards, right?

David00:19:21

Yep.

Cathy00:19:23

And bass on the keyboard.

Arnold00:19:24

Okay.

Cathy00:19:25

That's one interesting thing about our band is that the original Jefferson Starship had two bass players who would alternate playing.And ours has one who plays it on the keyboard, not the bass guitar.

Arnold00:19:38

I was wondering about that because I saw some video and I was like, okay, who's doing what here now?

Cathy00:19:43

And where's the bass player?

Arnold00:19:44

Yeah, how's that happening?

Cathy00:19:45

But David, sound man does an amazing job where people are probably like, where is the bass coming from?It's coming from Chris.

Arnold00:19:53

And it's different.It's different playing it on a keyboard than it is on a bass.But.Oh, definitely, if it doesn't.If the sound is there, it's.But you have to have that kind of talent, which really speaks to all you guys.Musical talent.David, you play all these instruments and I just picked them up and went.Because I know I read something that you.You really aren't trained on piano, but you're like, yeah, I picked it up and I can get around on it.

David00:20:16

I picked it up just because it's the musical typewriter.If you're going to write a song and you want to play, get a simulation of all the parts in it.There it is.It's all right in front of you.Yeah.And actually, I think everybody in my family had piano lessons.Me.

Arnold00:20:36

How'd that happen?

Cathy00:20:37

But you had a piano in the house, so you probably clickered around on it.Same with me.

David00:20:40

Played it more than anybody else.Same.I was just doing it by ear.Yeah, I Took violin lessons since I was four.

Cathy00:20:48

A lot of good that did.

David00:20:49

Jerk.First on the first Quicksilver album.

Cathy00:20:54

But I'm teasing you because you don't play it anymore.But I'm sure it's.It's a great musical education.Just.

David00:21:00

What.

Cathy00:21:00

No matter what instrument you play.I played flute in band for years and.

David00:21:04

Right.

Arnold00:21:04

Really?

Cathy00:21:04

I don't play flute now.It teaches you how to read music and march.

Arnold00:21:10

Absolutely.Never.Marching violins.Did you both grow up in musical families?

Cathy00:21:16

Yeah.Yeah.For me, I think yes.For David, if they all took piano lessons.All my.

David00:21:20

All my brothers and sisters all played instruments and my father never played anything.But his father.My grandfather played, was an orthopedic surgeon.But every week he got together with professional from symphony orchestra and played string quartets with him once a week.He was a pretty good violinist.Wow.But my dad never played anything.But he was crazy to classical music.And so I grew up hearing all of it, like going to the symphony every one of every.Since I went to kids once a week.Yeah, I was immersed in classical music to start with.Kathy, what about you?

Cathy00:22:02

Yeah, always music in the house.Growing up.A lot of singing.My mom sang and played piano and she was the star of the church choir and she was the director of the children's choir.And I was pillows.And not just because I was her daughter, but because I could sing.

David00:22:19

I hear recordings of your mom sang and they brought me to tears.She was such a beautiful voice.

Cathy00:22:27

She really did.She was.She had a gorgeous, clear, soprano, trained voice.You could do opera or she could do Broadway and she could do different things with her voice too.But she was just such a beautiful, angelic singer.Actually, if you.Anybody could listen to.If you go on my SoundCloud, it's for free up there.Paa Zoo with her church choir.

David00:22:49

It's just.

Cathy00:22:49

There's two sopranos and my mom is the first sopranos, if you want to hear that.

David00:22:53

Wow.

Cathy00:22:53

Beautiful for Christmas time.But yeah, we were always singing in a round and learning the harmonies, learning the part.My dad was into rock and roll.He had the best record collection, the best stereo, and we just.He would bring home albums.

David00:23:10

There was a.

Cathy00:23:11

He worked at the gas station as a mechanic and the guy would come through with a record company guy would come through with a trunk full of cutouts and give my dad all these records and he'd bring them home.We listen to them and just always super into music.And then he had a guitar and that's when I picked up the guitar and I taught myself guitar and piano and just took it from there.And they were always really cool about when I wanted to get into having a band and stuff.Sure, you can practice over here.I'm sure they wanted to keep an eye on things and.But they let me have a drum set in the basement and I would go down there and pound on it and stuff.And they never were like, shut up.They would sit on the porch and listen to us practice and be like, wow, they're getting pretty good.So they were hugely supportive and I miss them both.

Arnold00:23:58

This Arnold Stricker with Mark Langston of St. Luis and Tomb.We're talking to David Freiberg and Kathy Richardson of Jefferson Starship and they will be appearing in St. Charles at the Family arena on September 26th at 7pm you can get tickets at jeffersonstarship.com gotickets.com or Eventbrite.I want to ask you guys one last question.You've been very gracious with your time and we had a little fiasco from our end to connect with you and I again, I apologize for that.But if you can tell individuals who are, wow, I really like to do what they do, or I've got our band together and we want to break through.What do both of you suggest fledgling and future musicians do to keep the fire alive and to succeed at a level that would be satisfying, that people would enjoy listening to them?What do people, the kids in middle school, high school, college, what suggestions do you have for them?

Cathy00:24:56

I would say do it.If you want to play music, do it.Find a way, make a way.Believe in yourself.There's always a way.And making a living at music and doing what you love for a living is not.Doesn't necessarily mean that you're the most famous rock star on the planet.There's all kinds of levels of success and I know plenty of full time musicians in Chicago, where I live, that day job, they just play in bands and sometimes they play in four or five bands, but they work every night.And I recently had a chance to talk to Tom Higginson from Plain White Tees, they're from around here.And he said when he got out of high school he formed his band and he just started playing a million gigs.That's exactly what I did.And you just go out there, you make a name for yourself, you do what you're doing, you write songs, you record them, you put them out and you can and will find an audience, but you just have to.It starts with doing it.You don't sit there in your basement waiting for the lightning to strike.You got to get out of the house.

Arnold00:25:55

Good perspective.David, what are your thoughts?

David00:25:58

I don't know.It's like for me, every time I tried to do anything that wasn't music, I get fired.So I very rarely been fired when I'm doing music.I have been and it was always for the best actually, because it was mean.I was doing something I shouldn't be doing.So whatever.I like how it's worked out.Never give up.There's one if you're really into music, you aren't going to stop doing it.

Arnold00:26:24

That's true.

David00:26:25

Really?So if you love it, you'll do it.But I think it's a good idea to love it or the point.

Arnold00:26:31

That's true.You guys have years of experience of being in the industry.And folks, I want to also mention your.Matter of fact, why don't you guys mention I'm not going to do it.Tell us about your latest album and the latest release.

Cathy00:26:48

Our new release is called Jetpack.It's a tempo rock song in the vein of kind of earlier Jefferson Starship.Got that Paul Kantner blast off into space and get off the planet lyric.

Arnold00:27:03

Got it in the background.

Cathy00:27:04

Really fun, high energy song and I hope people will check it out on all the streaming services.We don't have any physical release yet.We're planning on making a new record next year.We have some other songs but they're not really in the can yet, so to speak.So we were just anxious to put something out, have something new to brag about to people as we're out on this world tour this year we've been to the UK and Switzerland and Germany and Buenos Aires and all over Canada and the U.S. so we've been.It's always good to have something new to talk about.

Arnold00:27:38

Gosh, you've been in all those places?

Cathy00:27:41

Yes.This year.

Arnold00:27:43

Gosh, aren't you guys exhausted?

Cathy00:27:46

We're home for four days this week, so we're.I'm sleeping as much as I possibly can.

Arnold00:27:51

So then you get that text from me that says wake up.

Cathy00:27:54

Gosh, man, I was awake.

Arnold00:27:56

How insulting would that be?

David00:27:58

Very.Yeah, wake up, mom, you're fired.

Arnold00:28:03

Yeah, folks, I'm not going to explain that one.David, what about you on the.On these new songs?Are you doing any writing or anything like that?

David00:28:12

Not first, just Jude and Kathy came up with beautiful.I think it's beautiful, but really rock.Great, great book.And Kathy has the direct man.And it's really is energizing I love playing it.

Cathy00:28:33

Yeah.And we should mention that Pete Sears, the OG Jefferson Starship bass player, returned to the studio to play this with us.And we recorded it in the same studio where many great Jefferson Starship classic albums were made.In Sausalito, there's the former Record Plant, which is now a 2200.

David00:28:52

The very room where Jane was mixed.

Music00:28:55

Yeah.

Cathy00:28:56

And the room where they tracked Fleetwood Mac rumors and is just.What a vibe.So I want to finish the record there.I think that's a really cool place to do it, but we gotta get.We gotta get off the road for a minute.

Arnold00:29:08

I am honored that you guys took time out of your schedules to talk to us.And again, I apologize for our mix up technically at the front end.And David and Kathy, thank you again for being on the show and talking to us about what music means to you, what Jefferson Starship means to you and the tour that you're on.And when we close off with our conversation, I'm going to play Jetpack for the listeners.

Cathy00:29:34

Thank you so much.

Arnold00:29:35

Thank.Thank you guys.You guys have been very gracious and best wishes and safety on.On the rest of the tour.

Cathy00:29:42

All right, thank you so much.

Arnold00:29:44

Thank you.Bye Bye, folks.What a great group.Here's Jetpack by Jefferson Starship.

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Lately every day I'm blown away with it like say this world's gone mad Got so bad I want to get off it used to be now it's just pitiful everyone's in it for me, me, me and I can't break free from this gravity.I'm a million miles away get me out of here so far that the earth becomes one of the stars Of a miles away there's this place I'm dreaming of but there's no rat race to rise above but it's nowhere fast Someone lives in my magma co Bright blue days crystal nights no cliches no traffic lights Just grab my hand count down from 10 and we got all we need is a jet black and we can we watch the ground fade to gray we'll go a million miles away get the idea?So far that the Earth becomes one of stars we'll go a million miles away oh, take me a million miles away.Sa.Get me out of here so far that the earth becomes one of the stars we'll go a million miles away oh, take me a million miles away that's come million miles away.Sam.Sa.

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Well, if you want to hear Jefferson Starship and you are in St. Louis, you can do that in St. Charles on September 26th at 7pm at the Family Arena.Tickets available at jeffersonstarship.com gotickets.com or Eventbrite.We're grateful that David and Kathy were able to get connected with us and being on the show.That's all for this hour.Thank you for listening.If you've enjoyed this episode, you can listen to additional shows@stln2.com and follow us and leave a review.Thanks to Bob Berthasiell for our theme music, our sponsor, Better 8 Mortgage, our guests David Freiberg and Kathy Richardson, and co host Mark Langston.And we thank you for being a part of our community of Curious Minds.St. Louis in Tune is a production of Motif Media Group and the US Radio Network.Remember to keep seeking, keep learning, walk worthy, and let your light shine.For St. Louis in tune, I'm Arnold Stricker.

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